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This is a movie in which trace from the danish yourname is playing with cheats versus Begrip Gaming in the NGL-ONE season 3 qualifier. Since trace refused to upload his ineyes demo I was forced to use the crappy HLTV which was only available for de_inferno (75%). The quality of this movie isn't very good so if you still aren't convinced he was cheating you should seriously consider checking out his demo (available on gotfrag.com, demo 2) with x-spectate. Even though this movie won't qualify Begrip Gaming for the NGL-ONE season 3, it will most likely get trace banned. Just play fair. Mirrors: http://www.xs4all.nl/~kuip55er /trace_busted.zip http://rapidshare.com/files/47 502958/trace_busted.zip.html 4964 träff(ar) sedan 2007-08-07 14:57 | Skriven av sj0k0l4d3 Texten ovan är skriven av en användare på Fragbite. Fragbite granskar inte sanningshalten i texten och du uppmanas att själv kritiskt granska och bemöta texten. Förutsätt inte att innehållet i texten är sanning. 99 kommentarer Senaste 2007-08-08 19:17 Dela på Facebook Visa kommentarssida: 1 #1 xensan 2007-08-07 14:58 .zip ? #2 clix 2007-08-07 14:59 Jadu, svårt att se reflexskotten med den sopiga hltv'n, men han går ju alltid fram i perfekta vinklar - dock är det svårt att avgöra då det inte är något ingameljud. Tyckte dock den när han gick korta och det var en i valv var skum... Senast uppdaterad 2007-08-07 15:04 #3 piNkh' 2007-08-07 15:00 .rar pllx ^^ #4 balkert Old school 2007-08-07 15:00 säger som #2 roligt roligt :) klantigt klantigt ganska solklart att han fuskar Senast uppdaterad 2007-08-07 15:07 #5 klp 2007-08-07 15:02 ok... #6 teppa Hall of Fame 2007-08-07 15:02 snacka svenska? ;O #7 maarv Old school 2007-08-07 15:03 fusk #8 k0rN- 2007-08-07 15:03 lol:PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP #9 LethaL Old school 2007-08-07 15:04 det far fusk aka cheat! :D #10 skaparn 2007-08-07 15:04 nån som har laddat ner zip filen? #11 xensan 2007-08-07 15:05 jag laddade ner och kolla, grabben fruppade solklart :) #12 LethaL Old school 2007-08-07 15:07 Then someone should alert some admins etc, that was 100% dirty tricks. #13 fisher 2007-08-07 15:08 CHEATTTTTTTTTTTTTT #14 tURD 2007-08-07 15:08 haha omg CHEAT! #15 telli 2007-08-07 15:09 I havent watched the movie yet, but I would like to stress that he is not a part of yourname, but just a standin. #16 MoNQeY.dll 2007-08-07 15:09 Hard to tell with such a crappy HLTV but he was clearly cheating, imo. #17 JagHatar_p12 2007-08-07 15:15 #15 dont take him again then, this is really undoubtable cheat.. #18 Junk1 2007-08-07 15:16 inge cheat imo #19 Andy Old school 2007-08-07 15:16 man he sucked at cheating #20 nat Old school 2007-08-07 15:22 Danskar och deras jäkla fusk, haha! #21 zonie Old school 2007-08-07 15:27 #20 worddddd, solklart? ;| #22 nvn Old school 2007-08-07 15:34 Kommentaren från 212.242.213.x har censurerats av Fragbite. #23 MoNQeY.dll 2007-08-07 15:35 #22 Ok Einstein, explain to us mere mortals then. #24 saladin123 2007-08-07 15:39 He's not cheating.. buggy HLTV :) #25 sickDAPiMPiSHh 2007-08-07 15:40 Det där var fusk... #26 mikkelstalin 2007-08-07 15:41 shows nothing without ingame sound :) #27 clix 2007-08-07 15:42 #22 I'm gonna stick to that it's cheat until someone proves something else - maybe you can? "Get a grip and learn to play"? Any idiot (except you) can see that this looks suspicious. You call us retards just 'cause we've got opinions? What do you have? A bad mouth and uncontrolled anger. Boy am I jealous of you... #28 JAGARBANNAD 2007-08-07 15:42 #26 download hltv demo :D #29 saladin123 2007-08-07 15:47 #27 Where in the avi can you prove that its 100% wallhack? #30 clix 2007-08-07 15:49 #29 Nowhere, therefore I'm not 100% sure. _I think_ it looks like wallhack, therefore I chose to believe it's wallhack until anyone proves me wrong. :) Senast uppdaterad 2007-08-07 15:50 #31 Lapez 2007-08-07 15:55 hltv demo zzzz, its lagging around #32 KEIZ! Old school 2007-08-07 15:59 cheat^_^ #33 bostong 2007-08-07 15:59 First of all, theres no sound on this movie.. And i personally think that on alot of these scenes where we can rule out wallhack, because of the sound. Secondly theres info on vt, which we have absolutely no chance what so ever to hear, so I'll leave that out, but keep it in mind anyways ;);) Thirdly, its quite a laggy and buggy movie made from HLTV. The reflexes with the sniper on HLTV seems SO much faster, than it really is.. And this is because of lag. Untill we have all factors(except vt info). Only then can we jugde this person. P.S #27 Guilty untill proven not innocent? Isn't it the other way around? Its very easy to make an assumption that he is guilty, but to prove it is a totally diffent thing... And I don't think that this movie proves that he is guilty at all, but then again, it doesn't prove that he is innocent either... #34 undertakertidus 2007-08-07 16:00 Have any1 of you EVER watched a lan-match played by trace? btw, #27 - you are prlly a stupid newbie :) Senast uppdaterad 2007-08-07 16:02 #35 JAGARBANNAD 2007-08-07 16:05 #33 just watch the hltv demo before saying such things, i have wll thought about all factors you just told and in most clips there was no possibility what so ever to know a player was there. for example the first clip when he looks away for a flash of which he haven't heard. even before bouncing against the wall, atleast not with sound volume on 0.9. but IF trace will upload his ineyes, which im sure he wont then im willing to reconsider if he was cheating but at this moment its obvious he was hacking for which we could see of him. its up to him that were wrong and noone can tell hes not hacking based on this movie. #36 hdN- Old school 2007-08-07 16:05 Lol, and I trusted you trace?! I pulled you out from the black internet hole and you give me THIS? OMG HACKER!!!! ADMIN PLEASE BAN! #37 Sunde 2007-08-07 16:06 I've played with trace a few times, and seen him play on LAN - This movie isn't proving or showing anything suspect. As many other also commented: It's HLTV, very laggy and we have no in-game sound or VT info. Judge him after the EC LAN finals :) #38 JAGARBANNAD 2007-08-07 16:07 HAHAHAH [16:02:14] <Mirror\trace> the avi shows nothing [16:02:14] <Mirror\trace> dude [16:02:21] <Mirror\trace> and i dont got the demo anymore [16:02:27] <Mirror\trace> because i need space at my c: [16:02:29] <Mirror\trace> only you got it [16:02:32] <Mirror\trace> because i sent it to you [16:02:37] <Mirror\trace> saturday [16:02:37] <Mirror\trace> :) i can honestly promise you that i have NEVER received a demo of him. don't you find this odd?? or is this perfectly normal? #39 bostong 2007-08-07 16:09 #35 I didn't say all could be ruled out because of "no sound" :) I just think that you can not conclude that he is cheating, with this bad evidence. You have to be damn certain, if you want to accuse someone of cheating, especially when its topplayers we are talking about. #40 nvn Old school 2007-08-07 16:11 You cant tell anything from a avi made off a hltv demo. Hltv is to buggy and you dont see everything. #41 JAGARBANNAD 2007-08-07 16:18 #39 hello, wake up man. i have inspected the hltv demo and not the movie. and i can tell you its 100% obvious hes cheating based on the hltv demo. the movie is laggy but the hltv isn't. just see for urself #42 dVc 2007-08-07 16:19 Make a new avi with better color quality + sound + ex_interp 0.1 =))) Senast uppdaterad 2007-08-07 16:28 #43 GeT_RiGhT Old school 2007-08-07 16:21 I think we need a better quality on this movie and ingame sound. And if Trace cheats and so, I'm really disapoint of him. Because he can really play on lan. #44 saladin123 2007-08-07 16:23 #41 Dude.. I think you're too noob to see if a player is cheating or not.. Sorry2say =) Senast uppdaterad 2007-08-07 16:49 #45 bangwild 2007-08-07 16:24 Kollar när ajg kommer hem.... #46 clix 2007-08-07 16:25 #33 It might sound a little stupid, but I have an opinion, and it won't change until he's proven not guilty. (However that's gonna happen since the idiot deleted the demo.) #34 Maybe so but I still have the rights to participate in the discussion and the rights to an opinion, or am I wrong? =) #40 How unfortunate that the ineye doesn't exist anymore then... Senast uppdaterad 2007-08-07 16:28 #47 counterstriker 2007-08-07 16:28 Är inte mirror rätt duktiga? :G #48 funatic 2007-08-07 16:30 If anybody would call someone a cheater on the grounds of this avi, they are either newbies, dumb or simply retards! :) Why? You say: 1) Crappy hltv demo, lots of lag. 2) Recorded with 30 fps in a really low resolution. 3) No in-game sound (you wouldn't know if the opponent was running around him). Sum up all this, review the scenes, and you will find yourself a complete dickhead for accusing someone on behalf of this kind of evidence. :) Senast uppdaterad 2007-08-07 16:32 #49 ewoqq 2007-08-07 16:30 lets checK! #50 bra 2007-08-07 16:31 omfg, get the fucking demo or he will burn in hell. #51 walth 2007-08-07 16:32 agree @ #48 People should seriously get a grip, especially you "JAGARBANNAD". This is ridiculous.. #52 ekivok Old school 2007-08-07 16:35 It certainly looks like it... #53 inzoQ4 2007-08-07 16:41 haha plz... this is so fun... trace is the best! wait and see him on LAN :) #54 clix 2007-08-07 16:42 #48 What I think is weird with the clip are sequences like 01:18. They are obviously sneaking, and 01:29, he's standing still. On both of them he reacts to where they "might be" (*caugh*) when they pop up on the wallhack... Sure, you/I need to keep in mind that they might be on ventrilo and therefore I wanna download the demo to see if anyone has seen the ones in house or the dude in the opening to CT-spawn, same goes for the guy who's peaking with AWP in ctspawn which he prefires (according to the hltv, though you never know what kind of lagg hltv's bring). So if anyone has a link to the demo, please give it! =) Another thing is that he never gave anyone the ineye? What's up with that? + Who deletes a demo from one game 'cause he needs space? It's not like 70mb will do any difference... :/ All I'm saying is that you don't have to be "retarded" 'cause you think these sequences look suspricious... Senast uppdaterad 2007-08-07 16:50 #55 mlky 2007-08-07 16:48 what a retarded cheatfilm, it proves nothing. #56 nvn Old school 2007-08-07 16:52 #41... seriously get a grip and read what im writing. YOU DONT SEE _EVERYTHING_ on the HLTV demo. As i remember long time ago some random dudes made an avi of sunde only by using hltv. In the avi u saw sunde standing with awp in the underpass, metro (link between mid and safe mid where u have to duck to get through) spotting up mid hes mates was in the "banana", Sunde then spots right, in the wall to the right of him and shoots a guy in the street that hasnt made a sound. <- thats weird. But well in sunde's ineye demo u see the exact same thing BUT you also see that sunde ducks first and shoot the guy in the street WHILE sunde was ducking... So you can say everything you want but you cant proove ANYTHING at all with a hltv demo. #57 nvn Old school 2007-08-07 16:54 #56 edit. and u dont see that sunde is ducking or anything in the hltv demo. #58 jonneh 2007-08-07 16:57 take spawns demo, without the ingame sound... it's gonna look like he is cheating also. Senast uppdaterad 2007-08-07 16:58 #59 clix 2007-08-07 16:58 #56 At least sunde still had his ineye to prove it, eh? =) edit: #61 Hur ska jag kunna veta om det är danskar eller svenskar som skriver när alla skriver på engelska? Lika bra att svara på engelska då. =) #63 I get your point, doesn't seem like you understand what I mean though. Senast uppdaterad 2007-08-07 17:06 #60 noneLOL 2007-08-07 16:59 ChIIItarN #61 Kite 2007-08-07 17:00 Clix, du är ju svensk? Vill du bara visa upp dina dåliga engelskakunskaper eller? #62 spraytak 2007-08-07 17:00 _BAD_ movie, its not saying me anything about cheat - And i know trace can play on lan.. ^^^^^^^^^ End of story. #63 nvn Old school 2007-08-07 17:00 #59 u obviously dont get my point so im just ignoring u :-) #64 sonkan Old school 2007-08-07 17:00 killen har ju timing som går ut över att ha hört folk iaf #65 wown 2007-08-07 17:03 no1 is that fast with the awp, when u see him peak banana EDIT: utan ingame ljud är det dock svårare att avgöra Senast uppdaterad 2007-08-07 17:04 #66 bostong 2007-08-07 17:04 #41 The scene you are talking about (FIRST SCENE), where he turns before he can see the flash? I just watched it on HLTV movie, and 5 seconds just before that, he jumps RIGHT into a flash, and he doesnt know? And just after, he seems to not know what to do, and I just think it looks like coincidence(spelled wrong prlly) Second Scene: The scene where he has a deagle in middle/ct-spawn .. If you watch that on HLTV, you can hear he comes from behind, and with no lag and no slowmotion, it seems PERFECTLY normal what he does. Third Scene: Can't explain it, Gut feeeling? vt info? or just coincidence 4th Scene: If you watch the 3 seconds before and after, you can see that its NOT cheat :) 5th Scene: He is T in banana with deagle with all his mates dieing right infront of him...Not even gonna bother about this one, std shit... 6th Scene: Refers to the 2nd scene, it just happens after this, and its normal for CT to stand down there and its notmal to "prefire" Watch the HLTV demo, and you can see that its obviously NOT cheat. 7th Scene: T middle with AWP, shooting at a jumping CT in middle... Looks like you speeded up the clip :D 8th Scene: T, AWP in Banana... He ALWAYS do this when he has AWP, thats a fact :) And its pretty normal to shoot at the wall, when you know you just legged someone :D 9th Scene: AWP reflexes, BUGGY HLTV... and on HLTV reflexes look MUCH faster, than they really are.. 10th Scene: T, at CT middle.. He doesn't turn around to prevent being flashed, he turns to look at the other side, and when the flash "POOF" he turns around because he thinks someone might just come close.. then he hears mate getting sprayed from the right side, and he just follows the sound, and shoots him... STANDARD!!! 11th scene: At the entrance to B bmobsite.. Can't explain it, gut feeling... or simply just luck... 12th scene: Cant even bother anymore... std shit again :) Just watched the HOLE HLTV demo.. and its OBVIOUS... he does NOT cheat :):) Pretty much all the scenes can be explained, because of the things he does right before and right after the things in the movie. And because of sound and vt info, and just playing IQ and skill :) #41 (If you have inspected the HLTV demo, you must be new to CS, coz that shows the he is NOT cheating :) Have a nice day... Senast uppdaterad 2007-08-07 19:54 #67 zahl Old school 2007-08-07 17:06 Han spelar sjukt annorlunda, Vissa situationer vet han allt (med wh?) eller går på ren spelförståelse.. #68 spkl 2007-08-07 17:14 Trace doesnt cheat, and that avi shows nothing.... if u know some about cs, and have been playing alot - more than just matches from channels like #pcw - then u would know for sure :) obvious yeah, obvious clean :) #69 k0rN- 2007-08-07 17:20 no cheat #70 ddly Ligavinnare 2007-08-07 17:30 Putain du tricher! sorri i hawe badder englich #71 Brannmar 2007-08-07 17:40 lol han verkar ju lite övernaturlig med sina fina haxx och sådant med jag tro han cheatar ja!!! #72 fruncker 2007-08-07 17:44 Löjligt..tycker inte man kan avgöra detta innan att ha ljud med etc. Fusk. #73 HILL .^. Old school 2007-08-07 17:47 Tycker inte det ser ut som fudzk? Varenda T/CT han nu skjuter på avslöjar sig ju genom att lägga granater eller springa runt som jävla elefanter och dom andra vinklarna på B2/Banan är väll helt normala? =S #74 w9N.dll 2007-08-07 17:49 Du är verkligen en bra movie maker... NOT #75 FerkurZ Hall of Fame 2007-08-07 17:58 most likely cheats, but he's playing russians so... who cares? #76 soga 2007-08-07 18:02 First of all, I can't see that this avi, made from a buggy & laggy hltv, is proof enough to say that trace cheated, second, he played very nice on lan.. Third, why does all swedes say that danish players are cheaters? :D I would like to know that :) Senast uppdaterad 2007-08-07 18:15 #77 JAGARBANNAD 2007-08-07 18:13 #76 wel it might not be enough proof to actually ban him since he refuses to upload his ineyes.... furthermore i would like to thank Intel, ATi, McDonalds & Durex for making this possible #78 etho_O 2007-08-07 18:14 only thing wierd about that was the flash on B ;o #79 DSV689 Old school 2007-08-07 18:16 Only thing I saw that claims any possible cheat is the one in the middle when he's spraying CPL and just the second when one is coming up middle he stopped spraying and backing and aiming towards middle suddenly, but I don't really know, there's some prefire footage also... #80 hyvlarn 2007-08-07 18:28 are you serious about this? GAHA that doesn't proof a damn shit, it proofs that trace is a good cs player. #81 Andy Old school 2007-08-07 19:36 #88 oh really? Is that supposed to be a joke? If so, not funny. #82 JAGARBANNAD 2007-08-07 19:42 http://bans.grhamedi.com/ban_d etails.php?bid=3627 = trace NGL is considereing to ban him due to the fact that he refused to upload demo and he never send a demo to NGL. #83 FerkurZ Hall of Fame 2007-08-07 20:28 #82 well if that's him, it dosen't matter, it's public ffs.. #84 WiLd` 2007-08-07 20:54 herremygud hes totally fusking #85 high- 2007-08-07 20:54 Lol, fyfan vad skämmigt, fuskar sönder #86 klp 2007-08-07 23:51 palla att ala skriver på engelska så är väl alla ändå svenskar men alla tror bara att de är en massa utländska så alla skriver på engelska? :P #87 Shenoy 2007-08-08 01:22 How can you ever honestly judge anything from an HLTV demo. So much data is missing from an HLTV demo. After ruling out ingame sound and whatever info was given to him through ventrilo, you should know that, what you are able to see on an HLTV demo is far from the truth. What you might see as for example prefire, might just be because he was actually visible to the player, but on HLTV he would still be behind an object. Get you proof and facts straight before "busting" anyone. #88 rymz 2007-08-08 01:33 LOL! #89 wingle 2007-08-08 02:25 You must be kidding me... #90 THE STREETS 2007-08-08 03:09 Funny thing that he keeps dodging flashes not making sounds. #91 bangwild 2007-08-08 08:09 Svårt att avgöra utan ljud och med hackig hltv. Visst det ser ut som prefire många gånger, men man vet ju inget om ljud och/eller ventrilosnack. #92 tsAn 2007-08-08 09:11 Downloading, edit incomming. #93 Littlebergman 2007-08-08 09:36 #66, you're his brother or something? It looks like cheat but ingame sound would help. #94 tekaP 2007-08-08 10:00 Trace snyder jo ikke mongoler,:) o.O skills of Dk.. #95 Lebari 2007-08-08 11:10 Must agree that the avi is not the best, and some normal things on it aswell.. anyway those headturns for flashes and when he spots an enemy trough the wall he gets scared etc makes it seem like cheating ;) (and if all of this is just luck, u should win lottery easily) #96 dMC <3 IMBAFEST 2007-08-08 13:49 Låten heter? #97 miklopops 2007-08-08 18:11 Haha, this movie proves nothing.. this is ridicolous.. He don´t cheat, he played well @ LAN :). And this is such a laggy HLTV demo so it' doenst prove any thing.. Nice try :- D! #98 gALNA`ryssen <3 2007-08-08 18:49 Men borde inte yourname bli diskade då?;s och Begrip borde gå vidare? or? #99 dNg 2007-08-08 19:17 Maybe the worst avi ever made, doesn't show anything. Lot's of it is pretty std, and sometimes its just a coincidence. Imo trace doesn't cheat! 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